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by Bigplumbs » 27 Aug 2015, 21:56

Hello all

I want a second larger boat. What are your views on this little darling

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/Spee ... yRFOTOM.97

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by Baasboat » 28 Aug 2015, 06:45

Looks good, maybe a little pricey, however i have a seray 225 weekender and its a cracking sea boat, good build quality and great sea keeping
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by Xboatboyx » 28 Aug 2015, 07:01

Nice boats those 240 Sundancers with good sea keeping and this one looks in fairly good nick. This one has been for sale for a while now which could mean price is too high or something is wrong with it, probably price. As with all used boats I would check service history including Outdrive, Manifolds etc. He doesn't mention what trailer it comes with, if its a decent make then could be £1500 on its own. It might be worth trying a cheeky offer to see how desperate he wants rid of it for winter. Its also worth noting that this one has a 5.0litre over the preferred 5.7 in this size of boat if your looking for outright performance.

I note its only in Bray which is not far from us if you need a second pair of eyes to inspect it.

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by Ianfs » 28 Aug 2015, 07:41

Hi Dennis

Cracking boats and in the 25/26' bracket one of the best layouts, with roomy interior space. Not many for sale, simply the good ones tend to get snapped up.

I'm no expert but pricing around this level seems to be relative to its condition and extras. There have been lots of debates about price negotiating on other forums over the years, some say kick 'em in the nuts and wait for an answer, others say if you do that they will be insulted and not want to speak to you again, so you may lose out completely on something you really like.

I say, look at its merits, if its way over priced you can soon tell by a quick Google search. For example, I looked at a 240 at Brighton, it was a '97 with a 5.7 at £18k. They had another a 2002 at £19,950, 5 years younger with the smaller 5.0 engine. I think the '97 sold with a little chip on the price but the 2002 is still there, not such a nice boat.

As a 99 with trailer and new covers and if it has a full history, good electronics and clean, it is there or thereabouts in terms of price, maybe a little bid would win it though. Not sure why he has had it antifouled as he keeps it in fresh water but then he may be anticipating a buyer using it on the sea and he does say that he may have used it in the sea previously.

One other thing though, there are no pictures of the interior and some of these can be a bit naff, so it might be a good idea to ask James to have a quick look.
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by Bigplumbs » 28 Aug 2015, 08:08

Many thanks for your help and advice. We would intend to keep this boat on the Southern Norfolk Broads for 3 months in the summer which also gives access to Braydon water and the sea. I was wondering what the fuel consumption is on these beast if you are just plodding along as I would be doing most of the time on the Broads.

I want a boat for both the broads and also one for coastal waters

On my 115 hp merc I can get away with about £30 in fuel for a half day of mixed plodding and about 15 mins of flat out.

I know that this would be more but am I talking double or much more than that

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by mlines » 28 Aug 2015, 08:33

At "plodding" speed our 5.7 Merc burns around a gallon an hour.

For a petrol engine boat on the river I would be wary of the availability of fuel. Being trailered we can use the "ASDA" cheap fuel option but on the Thames petrol is limited in availability and expensive, not sure about the Broads.
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by mlines » 28 Aug 2015, 08:42

Mark (the previous owner of our boat) produced an analysis of the consumption.....

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by mlines » 28 Aug 2015, 08:43

James - looks like the marketing campaign to attract people to the Broads is working!
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by Xboatboyx » 28 Aug 2015, 08:45

Ian is right a quick Google search shows it to be reasonably priced compared with other ones, especially if it comes with a good trailer and service history. Although as I said it has been online for a while.
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by Ianfs » 28 Aug 2015, 09:07

It's funny but, cars are similar to boats for fuel consumption where bigger/smaller engines are concerned and I don't mean they have similar fuel consumptions.
For example, Martin and James's boat with the bigger, well massive actually, brute of a V8 :mrgreen: produces 300hp :shock: but it can also be as economical as a smaller 5.0 l V8 at intermediate revs. Again, I'm no expert but what I see is that the 350 mag is an electronically controlled engine with masses of power but with very accurate fuel injection and fuel monitoring. Also put into a boat of the right size and weight it could out perform a smaller engine for not just its shere power but in economy.

I would have an absolute guess that with a 5.0l V8 at 1,000 revs in the 240 you would get roughly what Martins chart says about 5.5litres an hour and at 1500 revs about 10 litres an hour.

I'm guessing, but if you pottered about and didn't reach the higher figures you might get away with double the cost. Even at 1500 revs and 10l per hour, half a day at 5hrs for example would be 50l plus a bit of gas guzzling!! :mrgreen:

You haven't said what you want to do with it for the other 9 months, not that the British weather will let you of course!
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